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Applying the deduction theorem to Löb's theorem gives us <math>\mathsf{PA} \vdash (\Box C \to C) \to C</math>. | Applying the deduction theorem to Löb's theorem gives us <math>\mathsf{PA} \vdash (\Box C \to C) \to C</math>. | ||
When translating to logic notation, it becomes obvious that the application of the deduction theorem is illegitimate, because we don't actually have <math>\mathsf{PA} \cup \{\Box C \to C\} \vdash C</math>. This is the initial answer that Larry D'Anna gives in comments. | |||
==Translating the Löb's theorem back to logic== | ==Translating the Löb's theorem back to logic== | ||
Revision as of 03:22, 10 February 2019
original link: https://web.archive.org/web/20160319050228/http://lesswrong.com/lw/t6/the_cartoon_guide_to_l%C3%B6bs_theorem/
current LW link: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/ALCnqX6Xx8bpFMZq3/the-cartoon-guide-to-loeb-s-theorem
Translating the puzzle using logic notation
Löb's theorem shows that if , then .
The deduction theorem says that if , then .
Applying the deduction theorem to Löb's theorem gives us .
When translating to logic notation, it becomes obvious that the application of the deduction theorem is illegitimate, because we don't actually have . This is the initial answer that Larry D'Anna gives in comments.
Translating the Löb's theorem back to logic
http://yudkowsky.net/assets/44/LobsTheorem.pdf
Since the solution to the puzzle refers back to the proof of Löb's theorem, we first translate the proof from the cartoon version back to logic: